Comments on: Foreign Bloggers Complain Too Much About China

By: marius barnard

marius barnard — Tue, 19 Jan 2010 04:14:16 +0000

I have incident with Air ticket from Cebu Pacific Shanghai.We ask for a recieve and the guy give to my wife invoice and my company dont accept invoice.So I phone to Mr Feng and he said you have to pay 3% to get recieve.So now I ask you,is the whole china corrupt like this.Is this the reason why China cannot be international?Please can somebody give me a answer

By: Rick

Rick — Mon, 24 Dec 2007 15:09:39 +0000

Are you a serious blogger Perry? Any response to the previous comments?

Most of the complaints that I hear are not focused on the fact that these semi-serious bloggers have been inconvenienced – but rather that people in China are denied the privilege of a free blogging platform.

It would definitely be nice for non-techie Chinese bloggers to be able to write freely without having to face the same old error when they click publish:
"ERROR, YOUR CONTENT VIOLATES CHINA SOCIAL HARMONY STANDARDS. PLEASE REVISE AND TRY AGAIN LATER."

Any thoughts Perry?

By: dispersed love

dispersed love — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 00:20:14 +0000

The blogging issues with feedburner are not just happening in China because many websites outside of China also use this feedburner and they then find problems with users in China trying to use those feeds.

So don't just blame Chinese bloggers and the laowai in China but also all the other websites and blogs outside of China that rely on feeburner because too make it difficult to get the news and information from their own websites.

By: Ellen Haydu

Ellen Haydu — Sat, 13 Oct 2007 23:16:16 +0000

Since these get blocked so often why wouldn't a serious blogger already switch?

Do you have a list of Chinese blog providers handy? I'd like to see what sort of services they provide.

By: Alex

Alex — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 03:39:48 +0000

The first paragraph was quite combative, but the general sentiment I agree with. If you have a China related blog or website, beating the Great Firewall at it's own game is not hard. In fact I wrote some instructions here Censorship in general, though, I don't like.

By: TheBartman

TheBartman — Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:23:27 +0000

LOL u should be an agent for domain name registrars and webhosts. u gaining commission if people buy their services?

By: Andy

Andy — Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:01:00 +0000

I believe it to be too simple to ask people to upgrade their knowledge since so many people these days expect fastfood service on the internet and web-sites. What I mean is that why should people change if they are not the problem since the real problem assumes to be the blocking. since it is out of their control, they should not need to do extra things. I understand your meaning and truly agree with most ideas about having own brand name to build traffic but reality of doing this seems much too difficult for average business man who is blogging and also doing lots of working things.

By: Terry

Terry — Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:45:28 +0000

nice, Perry lives in China and he echo's recommendations made by Jeremy Goldkorn of Danwei.org about setting up business related blogs to a fine Amcham conference on the subject last month. I agree though that the techinical side often appears daunting to new bloggers. And yes, the GFW is extremely Mafan, but something we have to learn to live with.

By: David Wolf

David Wolf — Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:36:43 +0000

Objection, your honor!

As someone who blogs in part for business reasons (but would never claim to be a "China Expert"), I use TypePad – and I pay for it. I figure coughing up around $100 per year and parting with time I could otherwise sell quite dear in order to blog is more than enough to make me "serious" about what I do.

Your suggestion that I need to make the further investment of time and effort to set up my own hosting and move onto Moveable Type in order to be "serious" about blogging is so much techno-elitist crap.

On the other hand, I, unlike you, at least put my name and reputation (such as it is) behind everything I write. Most of us have never felt the need to hide behind the anonymizing fig-leaf of a pseudonym.

En garde.

By: n1ce

n1ce — Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:51:29 +0000

Please, come and live in China and try to do normal web things. It sucks and you end up pulling your hair out.

The difference between setting up your own domain and blogging from there, or going straight into wordpress.com or blogger.com with all their social systems and instant traffic, is immeasurable.

So to Perry: Research Up or Shut up!

By: Mango

Mango — Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:50:28 +0000

Probably the fact that you're based in China is disallowing you to write what is the real problem – ridiculous censorship. It might be 'fine' to censor stuff on T-bet and T-aiwn because that's the countries' right – but there so much other benign knowledge that is being blocked. 99.99% of Wikipedia is harmless. I cannot get to solutions to so many problems because they were blogged in Blogspot. Heck I can't even search for news because it is blocked in news.google.

So I agree – you're just bootlicking establishment s**t to come up with a piece of dirt story like that.

By: ?Kafka

?Kafka — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:37:31 +0000

perry: ditto

cecil: i think you're a t**t

By: Walter T

Walter T — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 12:25:19 +0000

Perry, you are correct that these are fine ways around problems encountered in China but these are far too technical and beyond the reach of the common blogger. These free blogging sites do serve a valuable purpose to assist non-technical users to get online and get their blogs available. It would have also been very nice had you linked to or provided examples of these so-called blogs you discuss. Why no examples? Do these sites even exist? haha

By: Cecil

Cecil — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:17:58 +0000

You're saying that internet censorship is fine as long as some people can afford to get their way around it? I think you're full of ****.